Mikef Posted October 29, 2003 Report Posted October 29, 2003 I have a TDI and when I am filling up with diesel, the pump keeps stopping (and I mean every couple of litres). I have tried twisting the nozzle to all sorts of angles to no effect. I've tried different garages, and asking various passengers to have a go in case it's my technique...but the problem keeps occuring. Anyone else have ths problem? I also find that if I stick the pump into the hole a little too far, it gets stuck and I have to tug to get it out... makes filling up a long process! cheers all mikef Quote
pj_andrew Posted October 29, 2003 Report Posted October 29, 2003 I have similar problems but its usually the pumps a garage uses. Other garage pumps work fine. If it is causing a problem, I don't push the nozzle in as far and that sorts it - however you have to be careful when its nearly full as the auto-stop doesn't work until its spilling out onto the floor. Quote
suzuki91 Posted October 29, 2003 Report Posted October 29, 2003 i leave aout 6" of the nozel out of the filler pipe, if i push it in all the way i find that the fuel flow stops. Quote
Ivor_E_Tower Posted October 29, 2003 Report Posted October 29, 2003 I too have to leave the diesel nozzle a few inches from fully inserted.Have you tried using the dedicated truck diesel pumps eg on motorway services? Makes for a realy quick fill-up! Quote
Mikef Posted January 27, 2004 Author Report Posted January 27, 2004 This problem is really starting to get to me, nothing I do seems to help. I feel a call to the nearest Ford garage coming on.... ho hum mikef Quote
Ivor_E_Tower Posted January 27, 2004 Report Posted January 27, 2004 How often are you filling up? Surely it can't be that bad. Quote
Mikef Posted January 28, 2004 Author Report Posted January 28, 2004 ...well, it depends on how many miles I do...at the moment it's only every 4 weeks or so. The problem is that the flow cuts out after a few seconds or so. I get a litre in, then clunk. So I move the nozzle, get another half litre, then clunk. As a one off, I could live with it. It's the dread of it happening every time. Yesterday was particularly annoying as I had 50 litres to get in, and the wind on the forecourt was very cold, so I just started fuming and ranting... As I said, I've tried lots of diferent garages, and my wife has the same problem. All part of the fun I guess. If you do see someone yelling at his Galaxy while filling up, please don't think too badly of him... cheers all mikef Quote
Ivor_E_Tower Posted January 28, 2004 Report Posted January 28, 2004 You can't fill with pump at max flow - you need to pull carefully on the pump delivery handle until about 3/4 of its travel. The shape of the filler tube on the Gal stops the fuel going in too fast. Try the truck pumps, like I do! Same problem but manage to fill up quicker with faster flow rate (larger diameter nozzle). Quote
seatkid Posted January 28, 2004 Report Posted January 28, 2004 Don't have any problem with mine (Mk 1) provided its at the correct angle (about 45 deg clockwise) and not forced in too far. Ivor, I (accidently - twice) tried the truck filler (abroad) but the nozzle is too large to fit a Mk 1. :huh: Quote
Mikef Posted January 28, 2004 Author Report Posted January 28, 2004 I've tried all sorts of approaches, sticking it in a little bit, only squeezing halfway, etc... I'll have to look for this release valve that Seakid mentions now tho.... cheers all mikef Quote
seatkid Posted January 28, 2004 Report Posted January 28, 2004 (Deleted from previous post...) Are you sure the air release valve is being opened when the nozzle is inserted (little metal thing just inside filler near top) ?Sorry! Air release valve is a red herring :rolleyes: This would normally remain closed until the cap is screwed back on. Nozzle doesn't release it! :rolleyes: Quote
Guest Turbo Posted January 28, 2004 Report Posted January 28, 2004 Turn the nozzle upside down or at least sideways, one way or the other and try that. Quote
Guest Kevin Posted January 28, 2004 Report Posted January 28, 2004 It could be the diesel itself that is causing you the problem when filling up. Diesel should have a range of additives such as: 1. Anti foaming agent ( so it doesn't go all over your shoes) 2. Fuel pump lubricant (for low suphur diesels with less lubricity) 3. A biocide 4. A detergent/dispersant 5. A cetane improver for quiter running and more power Here in France, the diesel is rubbish from the supermarkets, you might as well fill up with central heating oil. It foams and froths so much that it is like filling up with Champagne! I use Millers Diesel Power Plus when I fill up, as I have found my mpg/performance varies so much out here with the quality of the fuel. Millers makes the car run more consistently (C5 110 HDi LX and Superchipped!) Quote
Guest SA Intruder Posted January 28, 2004 Report Posted January 28, 2004 Not noticed any problems And 78 cents/Litre... Quote
Guest rayman Posted March 2, 2004 Report Posted March 2, 2004 Hi there long time no talk!! Anyway could the fuel line from the entrance be kinked in anyway? Do'nt know how to check this. I have had the same problem with my soon to be px 2.3 Gal a couple of months back but it seemed to rectify itself after a couple of months enduring 'clink, clink, clink...' :angry: Ray Quote
Purple Peril Posted March 2, 2004 Report Posted March 2, 2004 Personally I think its the diesel. Never ever have a problem with petrol in the Gal, but diesel in the van depands on the garage I use. Texaco seems to froth up more, Esso has less froth etc.etc. Quote
Guest nimrod Posted March 2, 2004 Report Posted March 2, 2004 The filling problem is well known with the galaxy it gets a mention on the TIS, iirc its possibly a kinked or block breather hose thats the major cause of the problem. I find twisting the nossle and only having it inserted half way in allowing the air to travel back up and out the filler neck allows the pump to fill at high speed Quote
MrT Posted March 3, 2004 Report Posted March 3, 2004 I find the biggest problem with the filling issue is that you get used to it clicking off so you just press the pump trigger again. When you do this with a real full tank it blows fuel back at you. Quote
italiastar Posted March 3, 2004 Report Posted March 3, 2004 Interesting - I've never had any problems - I put the nozzle in fully and squeeze fully, having said that I've only filled it about 10 times. Hoever, my wife (yes I do let her drive it sometimes) filled it up last week and experienced the same problem you describe. The attendant evetually came out to assist and said it was caused by air in the fuel delivery pipe and that holding the pipe high would solve it. She tried it, but still no luck, so he eventually took over and filled it OK (probably dripping it all over the place in the meantime) - I must admit this sounded like (Ford / VW main dealer talk) to me and this post seems to confirm this. Still does not explain why it works for me ???? Interesting about French supermarket fuel - I oftern wondered why you often found a petrol station right outside the supermarket, selling fuel 1 franc (15 cents or 10p) more. I presume if the fuel is not so good that you get poorer performance from it, which would explain my 30mpg when returning fully loaded from France, poorer performance, and possibly some very minimal possibility of engine damage - hardly worth wasting valuable holiday time queuing up to get the stuff to save a few euros. I'd be interested to know you views. Does the same apply to UK supermarkets? I must admit I have noticed a difference in the smell when filling up of "city" fuels and ones bought in rural areas or France. Quote
Guest losgigantes Posted March 28, 2004 Report Posted March 28, 2004 i had the same problem on a galaxy I hired , on returning it i was told that a new part was needed for the tank and it was a common problem Quote
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